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If you can tell me in five seconds. if not, we'll have to wait. >> in five seconds, it was politically problematic to be acknowledging contacts with russian government officials. and i think what probably went on, which is the danger of every administration is lying because you think that it's helpful to the administration. that's a problem. turned out to be a federal felony. >> are you going to lie to federal investigators, phil, for something politically? i mean, that's not very bright. >> yeah. but this is not a political case. every person in the seat sits there and says, they don't know w...

Of jared to try to influence it while president obama was still president obama. why are they always lying about it? that's the question that -- >> i think i can answer that one. >> you've got five seconds. if you can tell me in five seconds. if not, we'll have to wait. >> in five seconds, it was politically problematic to be acknowledging contacts with russian government officials. and i think what probably went on, which is the danger of every administration is lying because you think that it's helpful to the administration. that's a problem. turned out to be a federal felony. >> are you goi...

Could potentially deny the investigation access to classified intelligence that the special counsel might need to make his case. as former public prosecutor who worked on terrorism cases, number of times would have to go to cia for permission to use classified intelligence in a case, and cia's call whether or not to give it to you. if you can't make the case without that intelligence, you don't have a case. in addition to other things that mike pompeo has done, president ordered him to take a one-on-one hour-long meeting with a guy who goes on russian media peddling conspiracy theories about t...

They should think very seriously whether they really want a case of a lawful resident being sent to guantanamo bay to be the next case before the supreme court. that's not the case that i would bet on if i were on their side. >> is the record brt here than guantanamo. >> yes, it's much better because they get tried. most people at guantanamo bay were not tried. ed idea that they're kolgdsed or they play fast and loose with the system is simply not true. the conviction rate among terrorism cases is one of the highest among any in the united states. it's very rare to have people acquitted in ter...

Trying terrorist better in the united states than trying them in guantanamo? >> yes, way better because they get tried. people in guantanamo bay were not tried. the idea that they are coddled or they play with the system's simply not true. the conviction rate among terrorism cases is one of the highest of any crimes in the united states. it's rare to have people acquitted in terrorism cases. but what they do get is a fair trial. then, when we impose the punishment we impose it on our terms not theirs. they get a fair trial, the type of thing they deny other people. >> thank you guys appreciate...