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>> you hear an idea here that this doesn't rise to the level of cyber war. do you agree from your time at the cia, what are they thinking about to make that determination? >> well, actuallily, what it could do is fulfill the definition for an act of terror. u.s. law defines an act of terror including criminal 5:00 tifrty within the jurisdiction of the united states intended to coerce the population. so this could define that which would lead to the u.s. being able to put north korea back on the state sponsors. since we took them off in 2008 as part of a diplomatic quid pro quo, north korea has...

>> they are north koreans who are working -- and they are probably working in conjunction with the china use. but the point is the chinese know what is going on because they have this great fire wall. so they know everything that goes on in a computer terminal in china. so clearly china is complicit in all of this. >> which is a shocking statement, bruce, and brings in question what the united states can do and whether the united states is somewhat of a unikr here. >> we don't have a official statement that north korea is behind it, but the media reports indicate that it is growing closer and ...

Did pretty much most everything he could do under his executive authority still in place to be able to open up with cuba. the travel, the remittences, the banking, the re-establishing diplomatic relations, the beginning of the process to remove him from the terrorism list. not just critical first steps, but critical, second, third, fourth steps for a -- for a relationship with cuba that has long been defined by adversarial and now will be a relationship more about exchange of information and collaboration, i hope. >> jason, a lot of people have been comparing this to president nixon's choice t...

Addition a whole lot of diplomatic initiatives, including president obama saying he is going to move to restore diplomatic tie to cuba and see about taking cuba off the state sponsor of terrorism list. this is not a reward to the castro regimes. there have been modest reforms on the island and they want to encourage that. nay realize this is a recognition, the embargo not working. if the u.s. wants to change in cuban, it needs to engage more with the cuban people. and i might add, as part of this deal, cuba has agreed to release 53 political prisoners from a list provided by the u.s., allow mo...

Working. it didn't improve relations and the cubans were using it to solidify their own leadership. it was also major american relations with the u.s. so this is a good foreign policy move also. the cubans wanted to get off the terrorism list, that didn't make sense because they were cooperating with us on homeland security issues. but i think on a lot of other matters like environmental issues, coastal issues relating to protection of climate change and the seas, it opens up enormous areas, potential areas of cooperation. i think again the congress isn't going to take much action. i think the...