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Today. i will give you one example which is completely overlooked by everyone. it was a rather trivial one. when he was in israel, he gave a speech in jerusalem. and in the middle of the speech he talked about the rise of the islamist parties. in egypt and elsewhere. the brotherhood. in egypt and -- whats watt praise he used? we have to be concerned about the rise of nonsecular parties. what a weird word to use. the word is religious parties. the word is islamist parties. yet, even in this trivial throw away line. in a speech in jerusalem. he refuses to use the obvious word. >> bill: now, does...

Schism between the sunni and the shia population and that's -- it's more than the iraqi security forces which are shia dominated can handle. so are we safer? very complicated question. we've learned a lot of things as a result of our experience in iraq. we got great capabilities in our special forces and so forth. but if it had been up to me, i wouldn't have done it in the first place. >> you wouldn't have done it? >> i wouldn't have gone in there. >> seth, are we less safe? not just iraq where al qaeda has now gotten another stronghold. it is, of course, syria and why you can go and support t...

Terrorist allies constitute an access of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world. >> you say that the speech marked sort of a point of no return as far as the war was concerned. >> i wouldn't say point of no return, but a real milestone. here's what i think in that speech really stands up to the light of history. back when president bush spoke those words in 2002, it was considered quite shocking and bizarre to think there might be cooperation between hamas and iran. back then the conventional wisdom was, hamas espouses sunni islam, impossible they would cooperate, except we know they ...

Number of people who died in the 9/11 attacks. >> that's one of the milestones out there. there are no really proven accounts of how many casualties there have been in the drone campaign but most estimates put it in the vicinity of about 3,000 or approaching 3,000 which is how many were killed obviously in one day on september 11. so over the past 10 years that number of those killed in drone strikes which includes both militants and some civilians has been growing. jon: but as you heard in the foreign policy debate governor romney for instance said, we can not kill our way out of the terroris...

Where is the story about the film come from? where is the primary source? who decided that the film was at fault? some enterprising journalist, somebody with more time than any of us should find out where that started. in this case, you don't follow the money, you follow the means. >> bob: can i follow what he said here? he has his own problems in libya, which is severe. part of the country where more and more terrorist groups are coming in. they're not connected with al-qaeda. but they take the name. his local politics to deal with terrorism. he's got to deal with that every day. tribal counc...