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This kind of international terrorist organization running afghanistan i think is a bit of a misconception. i don't -- i'm not privy to the intelligence or what the secretary said about isis or al qaeda reconstituting themselves. but afghanistan has not been for 20 years and people don't anticipate that it will be, a terrorist haven the way there are other places in the world that are terrorist havens, where, by the way, we don't have troops on ground. that's historically been the situation for us. is how we've tried to stop terrorism through the group, not through having boots on ground but th...

Fighting for their freedom. he is speaking out in a way obama did not. you know the history of pakistan better than either of us will. but there is discontent. there are still terrorist havens. trump calls it out. his strength through leadership is a plus not a minus. >> calling it out with pakistan is legitimate on the merits. by calling it out publicly, will that get them to give up their support of terrorism, stop providing a sanctuary to the taliban? to me, unlikely. what it does, just like donald trump is motivated by a populist nationalist pressure, the other countries are too. pakistani...

Operation to take those -- that couple back from the kidnappers claimed that they held the family in afghanistan in 2012 when they were captured and that pakistan launched its successful raid within hours of receiving u.s. intelligence that they were in pakistan. pakistan has maintained it has addressed terrorist havens within its boersd, a senior state department official tells us that his kun -- it is time for pakistan to demonstrate fully it is willing to assist the united states in its core counter terrorism goals in the region. this is also as "the new york times" is reporting the top ame...

Happened. >> bret: i mean, there has been some expiration along the way what they were doing there. important to point out we have 180,000 u.s. military personnel and 140 different countries. here is president trump on terrorism in africa september september 20th. >> in the central african republic, the congo, libya, mali, somalia, and south sudan, among others, they are going through some very, very tough and very dangerous times. terrorist groups such as isis, how shall , al shabad, boko haram, also threaten african peace. the u.s. is proud to work with you to elude a terrorist havens. >> br...

Site or the perspective site of one of the largest al qaeda plots in europe. there was a pakistani guy who was actually extradited to the united states in 2009, i believe, raised in manchester, was looking to detonate a device much like this in a crowded marketplace there. could have killed scores of people. hundreds of people. and the telling anecdote about him is when he was cross examining the british cop who raided his apartment and found all the materials, the incriminatory evidence, said, oh, it's nice to hear a m mankunian accent because he was on trial in brooklyn. this goes to show th...