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Stopping are black and spanic. 80% is not the amount of people black hispanic that are committing the crimes. >> no, no that's because those neighborhoods are almost entirely 1 u '%. >> why can't they fault constitution, their inpersonal rules that say you have to list a reasonable decision for the stop? it's the nypd. >> you know what? i will agree with you, the policemen on the street to stops and frisks should have a pad or a computer and says this is why i stop so and so. i agree. >> they won't do it. >> okay. wait a minute. they don't do it. >> one third, 36 pierce. >> now they will do it...

Crime? >> i'm not. i will tell you why. because for every 69 times a police officer stops a target who he believes has a gun on his person, he finds one gun. there is only 5% of all the stops made, only a% result in an arrest. so it doesn't really impact the crime rate. i think it's a hair trigger belief that it would impact it but in practice it really doesn't. >> okay. you know you are desperately wrong, right? >> i'm desperately right. >> bill: you would have to use facts to prove that. here are the facts, chicago doesn't have a stop and risk. right? their murder rate per 100,000 is 19, all...

Liberal journalist. i think it's shine lynn has ruled that the nypd is nypd stopping and searching them disproportionately to others. scheindlin did not order the stop and frisk to cease but overseer. mayor bloomberg. >> this is a very dangerous decision made by a judge that i think just does not understand howe policing works and what is compliant with the u.s. constitution as determined by the supreme court. we go to where the reports of crime are. those unfortunately happen to be poor neighborhoods and minority neighborhoods. but that's not the original objective or othe intent or how we ge...

And immigration is a classic example. so i think many -- >> supporters of it say the federal government has failed in their responsibilities to do that and they have no other choice. >> that may be the federal government has failed. that doesn't change the legal doctrine which says vote out your congressman, vote out the president, get the federal government to fix it. but you can't suddenly have a state take over a federal function. i think that is the biggest problem with the law. >> when supporters of the bill, like representative cavanaugh, kind enough to be on for a second night, former p...

Lot of latinos around the country say they would feel threatened. is he right if he was standing on a street corner in clothes that were scuffed up or something would he be able to be approached? >> no. he could not. he is completely wrong. it's more than just what you look like. it's behaviors. you know, stop and question law has been around since 1968. as to his question of who judges, it is a judge that judges. police officers will receive training. already been trained in other areas. they will be updated. when they have reasonable suspicion, they have to articulate it to a judge. if a jud...