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Citizenship to kids who are born in this country, if their parents came here illegally. an idea critics argue flies in the face of the constitution. with me now is democratic state representative and her republican colleague to talk more about this. let's begin the segment by reading the 14th amendment to the constitution in 1868. it says, all persons born or naturalized in the united states are citizens of the united states. no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the united states. representative cavanaugh, does this proposal run...

Am, yes, sir. jon: to come across the border illegally? >> no, sir. we're not talking about that. we are talking about giving the police the right to stop anyone who looks like me. anyone who has certain racial and facial characteristics. that's what we're talking about. this law does nothing about the murder. -- about the border, two t does nothing about border security, fencing, it does nothing about the national guard. it simply ignores the border and focuses on people in this country, most of which, by the way, most hispanics in this country, are u.s. citizens. most hispanics in this count...

And immigration is a classic example. so i think many -- >> supporters of it say the federal government has failed in their responsibilities to do that and they have no other choice. >> that may be the federal government has failed. that doesn't change the legal doctrine which says vote out your congressman, vote out the president, get the federal government to fix it. but you can't suddenly have a state take over a federal function. i think that is the biggest problem with the law. >> when supporters of the bill, like representative cavanaugh, kind enough to be on for a second night, former p...

Has been around since 1968. as to his question of who judges, it is a judge that judges. police officers will receive training. already been trained in other areas. they will be updated. when they have reasonable suspicion, they have to articulate it to a judge. if a judge says you don't have it. the case gets thrown out. >> these are not federal officers. these are state officers who have most of them have not been trained to do this. where does it say in the constitution that states have the right to enforce federal law? that's what i don't understand. this is clearly a violation. it will be...

Discriminated against. those people who claim they are illegal immigrants. when they do things like this. they are against all immigrants. this is what is happening in arizona. they're declaring war on all legal immigrants. >> representative cavanaugh, you are a former cop, do you have any concerns the language of this is pretty, it's left up to, left up to judges. in reality it's left up to local police office tires decide this person seems suspicious or something about their behavior is suspicious? that is a lot of latitude? >> it's based on existing body of law. federal immigration officers...