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Information, witnesses who deleted communications and used encrypted apps. what were some of the -- you're unable to answer for yourself because of that obstructive activity. i'd want to know that because that could be avenues for congress to follow up on in its own investigation. >> right. exactly. because part of what you're going to want to know here is what mueller wasn't able to find if there is an opportunity for anybody to find it. barbara mcquade, thanks for joining us. i really appreciate it. >> you bet, rachel. my pleasure. thanks. again, the bottom line here is that robert mueller...

Lied, witnesses who gave incomplete information, witnesses who deleted communication and used encrypted apps. what were some of the -- you're unable to answer for yourself because of that obstructive activity? i'd want to know that because that could be avenues for congress to follow up on in its own investigation. >> right. exactly. because part of what you're going to want to know here is what mueller wasn't able to find if there is an opportunity for anybody else to find it. barbara mcquade, thanks for joining us. on short notice as we handle this breaking news. i really appreciate it. >> y...

United states. saying well, did he do this with his wife and sound like people sitting around a bridge game talking crap about -- or a bar. saying you know what his wife's father did. remember him? they were nasty. it's so beneat the dignity of not even the presidency. of just someone sitting on a bar stool. a drunk sitting on the bar stool at at bar. it's disgusting. congressman tweeted this. cohen is delaying testimony due to threats from trump and giuliani. whoever says knowingly uses intimidation, threatens or attempts to do so with intent to influence the testimony of any person is guilty...

Testimony due to threats from trump and giuliani. here's what 18 u.s. krflt says. whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens or attempts to do so with the intent to influence, delay or prevent the testimony of any person is fwlt of a felony. so there's the criminal code. do you think the president, his attorney's comments qualify as witness intimidation or witness tampering? >> that's the statute. the critical point would be intent to delay or harass. the defense that he would bring is, yep, i am a sewer dweller. i'm a jerk. i say this stuff all the time. i insult women's looks, i insult t...

Not be encouraged to do this again? >> obviously, i recognize that sensitivity, but that's why we should also be talking about, we have a budget deal that we'll have to do, and we are right around the corner with the deal, and let's be proactive. that's a d.c. thing that they do, wait until the last minute. so you don't go over the cliff because you run out of time. >> congressman tom reid, thank you very much for being on with us. we always appreciate you. >> i love being with you, brianna. >> all right, sir. see you later. breaking news, michael cohen postponing his testimony due to threats ...