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Your testimony lines up with giuliani running a rogue operation, sometimes contradicting foreign policy. how damaging were his actions? >> you know, i guess we're going to find out in ukraine how damaging the actions were. it certainly is leading to a lot of confusion in foreign policy, not just in ukraine but elsewhere around the world as we showed in our report. the issue for giuliani is the danger, is he running this kind of wild cat for profit foreign policy under the color of authority because he's president trump's adviser? that may have legal implications on rudy giuliani. if he's not, ...

President zelensky is enough to understand that he abused his office. but the question is to what extent was the corruption? it doesn't seem like it was just a phone call. it seems like there was a systematic attempt that went over months where the president tried to pressure ukraine to investigate biden. many people were involved. many people tried to push back. and those facts need to come out so that the american people understand the extent of it. this was not just the president misspeaking in one phone call. this was a deliberate strategy to investigate a political rival. >> and during th...

And done, george kent won't go down as a star witness for the democrats here, but what he does do is he fills in around the edges here this concern that was apparently fairly pervasive within the state department and the white house about what rudy giuliani was up to in ukraine. we know that he was someone who raised concerns about giuliani's efforts to go after the ambassador to ukraine many many months ago and also essentially backs up maria yovanovitch, former ambassador now, and who is being painted by republicans as a more partisan figure. to the degree that kent's testimony lines up with...

Over. there would appear to be fragically victims who could be spared had acosta and the prosecution team done their job in 2008 if these allegations are true. so they can definitely bring these charges here, and the gravity of the charges is enormous. certainly looking at spending the rest of his life in jail. >> gosh, you worked, arianna, as a prosecutor in the southern district. how strong do you think their case is right now? >> the case is really strong and you can really read that in the detention memo the southern district of new york prosecutors filed yesterday in their arguing for kee...

Operates. in conversations we had during the campaign at the same time i was actively negotiating in russia for him, he would look me eye and tell me there is no in business and then go on to lie to the american people by saying the same thing. in his way, he was telling me to live. >> melissa: buzz sweet editor in chief ben smith tells "the washington post" that his testimony lines up very closely with what we reported. he had told the special counsel. if but the president of the investigative reporting nonprofit organization sharply disagrees and he tweets it looks like the big buzzfeed stor...