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I don't want them to be testing. what have the north koreans given up in exchange for all of this air time on the international stage with the leader of the free world? >> essentially, they've given up nothing, to be honest with you. i mean, the testing freeze, while i won't dien deny that tes are much de-escalated. they haven't done any tests. but the intelligence said they're 90% to 95% where they needed to be in order to mount a nuclear weapon on to an icbm. and testing is not the same for kim jong-un. and they've also said they continue to enrich uranium and continue to enrich their capabi...

Korean testing freeze is the single most important thing for the next year or two. and you both -- don't offer too much. we for example do not want to see this president put things like america's security commitment to south korea on the table. we want this to be measured. history says you don't want to pay off too much up front because the north koreans have a lucy in the football history. i'm curious what mr. stavridis thinks about what he is still worried about, what he thinks could go wrong at this point, if he were warning the president or advising him about the pitfalls, what would he sa...

Set for themselves and the standards we have to hold them to otherwise we are back to status quo. a testing freeze is a testing freeze and is immediately reversible and north korea can cheat as they have done in the past. >> it is going to be difficult. it is reversible. verifiable part the intelligence community doesn't know how many weapons they have, thousands of underground tunnels. it would be a very difficult thing to achieve. >> we want to go back to capitol hill where senator bob menendez is asking mike pompeo about de-nuclearization. >> the capability associated with that and all of t...

Think about and the question then is what can we do for example, what do we care most about? it might be their long-range ballistic missile capabilities, it might be to extend the testing freeze, so they can't get certain capabilities, it's not just what's desirable. it's what's realistic and how we're willing to stage it if we're prepared to do this and do it over time, in a way that has some realistic appreciation for what the other side can conceivably give up, we ask k succeed. if we do this as a kind of theatrical, you give us everything we want now up front, almost as a down payment, the...

One of the benefits, while not perfect, does actually have in place a rig program to verify that iran is not developing a nuclear program. maybe that is where you get the outline of a deal. some kind of rigorous verification measures that the north koreans agree to because they're having trouble with this process of miniaturizing their nuclear capability to fit it on top of a missile. they don't make further advances that would limit the risk that we face even if that's the denuclearization is a longer goal. >> using the iran agreement as an example is a winning argument with this administrati...