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Effectiveness wears off but also antibodies wear off. why aren't they allowing us to text the antibodies on our members and using that as a level to get tested. >> brian: they told you are vaccinated. for the unvaccinated there is a testing option. you are okay with that. >> we would love to keep a testing option. >> brian: you would love to see an antibody test. >> absolutely. the department has been giving antibody test since last year. they already have antibody information on a lot of our members. at this particular time refusing to use as it a method. >> brian: vaccinated more likely not ...

Are preemptively pushing the mandate because they're worried about the lit tinning -- litigi. rachel: of course. pete: you have to provide a testing option. lawrence: same thing we do at fox. there is a testing option t doesn't work. you make such an excellent point, rachel about the former president. for all his faults where people want to nick him he had a track record of bringing people to the table and hosting those roundtables especially with the business community. he didn't do it behind closed doors. he invited cameras in to have those conversations and you look at this white house righ...

Trying to surge gifts and other material across the economy will even exacerbate problems we're already seeing and i'm afraid if the president doesn't amend the executive order joe biden may be the grinch that stole christmas. lawrence: what are you guys going to do to kind of fix this? >> we're asking for the administration to delay the implementation of the mandate. to give us time to put it together but also to include a testing option for those who don't want to be vaccinated. this is something that we have been working on tirelessly is we've been trying to help vaccinate all of our employ...

And the national league of cities, that their vaccination sites to donate more than $1 million of ppe to help run the sites. and in our own facilities, 32,000 companies across the country we've been working with our employees to help get them vaccinated. offering incentives, offering timeoff. getting nurses into the facility. as you mentioned one member offered free trips to vegas. if you get vaccinated, you're thrown in a pool for that. we've done everything we can. we've incentivized them in any way we can. most of those remaining tell us if the government mandates it, fire me. and so, we've...

Detailing on this program how a number of first responders are being let go right about now because they have not complied with local and state mandates regarding getting the shots. here's the president. watch this. >> should police officers, emergency responders be mandated to get vaccines and, if not, should they be stay at home or let go? >> yes and yes. the idea is that, look, the two things that concern me, one are those who just try to make this a political issue freedom. i have the freedom to kill you with my covid. [laughter] no, i mean, come on. freedom. number one. number two, the se...