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Sen trick. what does that mean? it can mean whatever the listener wants it mean. when republicans talk about that, they mean we should have health insurance for catastrophic costs like a $6,000 deductible and a health savings account to cover your expenses up to that. one thing is obamacare is actually pushing people in that direction. and that's something that people have been complaining about with plans from tex changes. if you buy a bronze plan in the exchange, often a plan like that to save you from bankruptcy if you end up with $50,000 in medical bills and not help you with the ordinary ...

Are broken? >> he is explaining. let me do some for you. the people getting kicked off insurance plans didn't have real health insurance. >> yes, they did. >> they had faux insurance. it was all -- >> stop. the president said if you like your plan you keep it. people like it and they are being kicked off. >> they don't know if they like it because they haven't used it. >> they like it! >> when they try it's like -- >> there is a reason the liberal reduce has taken shape. they have to justify a fact that one of the essential promises made is completely false. to your prediction it is a lie. the...

Insurance plans didn't have real health insurance. >> yes, they did. >> they had faux insurance. it was all -- >> stop. the president said if you like your plan you keep it. people like it and they are being kicked off. >> they don't know if they like it because they haven't used it. >> they like it! >> when they try it's like -- >> there is a reason the liberal reduce has taken shape. they have to justify a fact that one of the essential promises made is completely false. to your prediction it is a lie. the fact that if you like your doctor, keep it. why kick off these people based on obama c...

Absolute inconvertible failure of the war on drugs tells you a big issue here in this discussion. especially when it comes to the spending. we spend a ton on this. it gets us in a ton of trouble. as long as people -- >> eric: may i stop you there. leave it to the states. fantastic. i love that idea. problem is, when liberals like yourself, when we talk about things like voter i.d. you say no, no, no. voter i.d. is different. don't leave it to the states. >> no, no, no. no, no, no, no. >> eric: or obamacare for that matter, healthcare. don't leigh it to the state, make it federally mandating. >...