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Have to revisit the plan that my husband and i had to lay out in case of an emergency. which parent will take which child? what's the meeting spot in case we're separated? the agreement not to go back for one another and just get the kids to safety. maybe the hope that our children will remember to run if we, ourselves, are hurt. all of this planning, all of these thoughts because of pervasive, frequent, unrelenting gun violence. i remember when i first took my kids to watch the fireworks, and none of us parents were watching the fireworks as they were. we were watching our kids watch them jus...

Against him. and that's what's happening in the background now. you've got investigative analysts, agents, detectives. you've got a lot to work with here. i just don't see there being a weak case coming out of this. >> now, here we are on the -- unfortunately the back end of this extraordinary tragedy, but we're learning about things that happened before, andrew. the idea of other 2019 interactions, the idea of an attempted suicide, a threat to kill his family members, knives being taken away, a sword. you know, the mayor told cnn that she is looking forward to an explanation as to why illinoi...

Owe to a court. to think that five attorneys are being subpoenaed in a case like this is really stunning to me. you talk a lot about rudy giuliani, but, harry, we're talking about people who have made representations to a court of law as well. an important note for the audience. remember, this is a special grand jury. they're going to return a report. their job is not to return an indictment in georgia. that's for the actual grand jury down the line. harry litman -- >> although very quickly, fani willis. >> thank you, harry litman. the justice department is now suing arizona. i'll tell you w...

I didn't yet hear them talk about any federal charges. these are at the state level at this point in time. what is your assessment in terms of the strength of the case against this person so far? >> well, it's really interesting, laura. so, of course, first-degree murder charge is a very serious charge. if he's convicted on any of those, he'll spend the rest of his life in jail. i think from the request that the police put out today about looking for a particular witness who allegedly observed the shooter deposit his rifle into a barrel or secrete it somewhere, that indicates to me they're hav...

Father of this shooter -- or suspected shooter -- says that the knives were his. they were in a case. he was keeping them. and the police say they gave those knives back to the father. here's what police here in highland park say about why they couldn't do more on those incidents. >> the police responded there. police can't make an arrest unless there is probable cause to make an arrest or somebody is willing to sign complaints regarding the arrest. absent of those things, the police don't have power to detain somebody. now, if there is an issue where there is the necessity to involuntarily co...