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Calls made to or by the president as the insurrection was happening. how can investigators actually piece together the time line if they don't have that information? >> this is like a textbook case almost out of a law school class, phil, how you build an investigation based on documents and records and live testimony and here's why. you don't have records of the president's phone calls from the phone companies, but you know at least from keith kellogg, who was the former white house security adviser, national security adviser, he testified to the committee that the president, mike pence, spoke...

That's the part i don't understand how it makes any sense. >> it doesn't make any sense, dana. it doesn't make any sense for two reasons. one, you have the obvious violent crime of which there seems to be strong evidence. a mental health issue and maybe an intent issue. did he do it does not seem to be one of the big issues in the case. and the other thing is if he has got problems like this, when you post bail for someone you are supposed to be basically saying i am assuring the court that this person will show up for his future court appearances. so you have a danger to the community situati...

Bloodshed. what can we learn from this? pat brosnan joins me now. first of all, sir, i want to just -- can you hear me? >> loud and clear, charles. >> is a hero down in texas says he is no hero. it is just what he has learned to do. he says that there was evil there. he did what he had to do. you say no, he is a hero and that maybe we all could learn from him. >> absolutely. he is 1000% a hero, charles. within six seconds, he neutralized them. a textbook case, i might add, from what i see, and the justified deadly use of physical force in texas under current law. i salute him. and another posi...

They were back with her panel. kyle, tell us what these text messages actually said. don't think she was calling for as a center claimed. she did want to fight very hard to overturn the election for a. >> she seems to have bought into some of the wilder conspiracy theories about what happened in 2020. about voting machines, there is no evidence those fears are true. even at the time i personally found them hard to believe. but i disagree this is a textbook case of recusal. the thing to understand is the united states are specific disputes. one example is judge jackson has been nominated to the...

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