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governor that does it for us this evening, we will see you again tomorrow it's time for the last wor with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence >> good evening, i hope my friend roberto clemente in los angeles is watching to kno that his cousin, the book abou his cousin, roberto clemente i back on the shelf. >> where it belongs, exactly >> thank you, alex mike pence will never be president, but he will be witness against donald trump mike pence has decided not t appeal a judges order forcin him to testify to specia prosecutor jack smith' investigation with donald trum leading up...

in a lifeless book, that h wrote titled so help me god. mike pence appears to have tol his story to other authors like possibly bob woodward, an robert costa as an unnamed source for their books about the final days of the trum white house. and now mike pence will testif under oath to jack smith's grand jury about every singl word that donald trump said to him when he was trying to ge vice president mike pence to break the law and overturn the presidential election on january 6th. if those conversations wit mike pence or evidence tha donald trump committed a crime mike pence could be...

Deliberately was - with a lie about the power o the vice president, i thin that's a huge home run for justice. >> neil castillo, how many way does donald trump have t publicly confess in th documents case for jack smit to be ready to go? this latest one, as president, i have the right to declassify documents, and the process i automatic. if i take them with me, it's automatic. the government hasn't even referred to the fact that th documents are classified, when they were going for that searc warrant. that was not what it was about it was not about governmen documents, classified or not along ...

Documents being taken, and training that has been given t him in the president about wha was his or not his, an obviously to much more central things to the january 6t investigation. that includes privat conversations, did he thin that they won the election of course, he was the vice president, did he have any conversations with the president about whether they won or not i think that a key thing i hav always thought would b critical for vice presiden pence, is that if the januar email, where you have th president saying that the vice president agrees that he has the power to not count the vot...

I don't think we shoul discount the possibility o death and destruction, especially on an individua basis. i doubt that we will see a lot of mob violence in reaction to this or any future indictments certainly, you can have one or two people that have bee radicalized as people have bee radicalized in the past as par of donald trump. it's been really reprehensible the way that he and his family have been singling out the daughter of the judg overseeing this case, and sort of all but begging people to harass her and make her life untenable. i also think that this is sign that the january 6t pros...