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n issues, including migrant plights and newsom's pathetic threat to throw them in jail. desantis thinks it's time for.s gaviit'sn to up and get into the race for the white house. >> know what? >> stop pussyfooting around. are you going to.ow are you going to throw your hat in the ring. and challenge, joe? are you going to get in and do it? ard do e you just going to sit on the sidelines and chirp? so why don't you throw your hat in the rin g and then we'll go ahead and talk about what's happening? >> but i guess gavin likes being on the sidelines. >> herthe e he is repeatedly rug out...

I talked to a lot of people who say, where is he? say interesting. you know, they want to know whyo he's not out there more, whyt he's not doing more interviews. i know he's spent time in iowa and new hampshire and he'sn iowi doing that work, which is really important to do. but i think a lot of folksof lie to see him drawn out. and the donald trump issues have kind of oxygen out of the room, which is happens all the time. right?t but he needs to find his way to get in and to make his mark. so this kind o providf provided him a little bit of an opening to get in the conversation. sti? >> you k...