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institutions are weak, and their ideology is a failure. we are just getting started in i this campaign for reform. s >> laura: victor, i think it is important thaimt people don't claim like a premature victory here, although this is very. important and why i decided to do the show tonight, very, very important. this is just one person at one university that happens to bet harvard. but tell us about whatho you knw about how deep this really goes in the american educational psychic. >> well, it is institutionalized. iand people that speak outt against it or punished. and they have a fundamental contradiction, laura, because they claim they are preeminent and hyper democratic and theyey bare not. the base decisions on hiring tension anadmid scholarship andl race. and whenie you are lying like that, then the lies are not the end but the beginning. on this case, she lied -- sai unfortunate to say that but