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Then you say, okay, if it was something catastrophic or something very fast that overwhelmed acars, then how come the plane was still flying around for hours if in fact the radar information is correct. >> and that's exactly the conundrum in this case. that's why as the minister said, this is no ordinary -- no normal investigation. this is why the ceo of malaysia airlines said this is unprecedented. this is why we're talking about it at such great length because nobody can come up with a scenario that makes sense with the facts that we know so far. >> richard, it's good to have you on. martin ...

I can get into the menu and begin to shut things off. think of like your iphone where you turn off the wi-fi and maybe turn off the bluetooth, eventually maybe turn off the cellular. but that phone is still communicating even with that shutdown with the main telephone system. i can degrade the system. i can't shut it down. to do that, i've got to go somewhere into the electronics bay. i've got to be more of an electrical engineer. lastly, the transponder. we've heard a lot about that. this i can turn off very simply. one, two, three. it's off. we're now invisible to radar, at least identifying...

The plane was still flying around for hours if in fact the radar information is correct. >> and that's exactly the conundrum in this case. there is no normal investigation. this is why the ceo of malaysia airlines said this is unprecedented. this is why we're talking about it at such great length because nobody can come up with a scenario that makes sense with the facts that we know so far. >> richard, it's good to have you on. martin savidge as well. i want to thank mitchell, our pilot, for your expertise. you can find out more at cnn.com. just ahead, investigators turned their focus as we ...

It at such great length because nobody can come up with a scenario that makes sense with the facts that we know so far. >> richard, it's good to have you on. martin savidge as well. i want to thank mitchell, our pilot, for your expertise. thank you. you can find out more at cnn.com. just ahead, investigators turned their focus as we mentioned before on the two pilots of the flight, the co-pilot, searching their homes, combing through their paths. we'll take a look at what they are looking for and what they have found, if anything, so far. hey guys! sorry we're late. did you run into traffic?...

It would have had to have been a snap, boom, and it's over. >> mitchell, aren't there different -- just to confuse things all the more. aren't there different levels of acars that airlines can subscribe to and malaysia didn't subscribe to the more advanced one? am i correct in that? >> we talked about this, didn't we? >> that's right, we did. we talked about this. anderson, that's absolutely correct. some airlines -- actually most airlines in the world, malaysia airlines is the only one that i know of that doesn't do this, subscribe to a system whereby the information that they send to satelli...