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Getting tied up in knots trying to defend the obama deportations? >> well, i think he did make an incredibly forceful case for obamacare and he did mention preexisting conditions. in 2018, he traveled the country. he was invited into districts all over the country by democrats who wanted him to come in and help them get elected or reelected. and you know, he made a really forceful case for the affordable care account and it's a huge reason why we won the house back in 2018. so i don't think anybody could accuse joe biden hof not making a forceful case for the affordable care account. and you'r...

First of all, barack obama's approval rating with democrats is 96%. donald trump's approval rating with democrats, 4%. so the fact that we spent more time talking about a wildly popular president and not talking about donald trump is just -- ceases to amaze me. and on health care we just won the house of representatives in large part because we wanted women voters across this country on health care, on going after trump's attempts to get rid of preexisting conditions and get rid of some of the protection thas obamacare give us. and instead of talking about that and staying on the offense with ...

Last night you saw joe biden remind people that one, he's the fighter to take on donald trump, and two, his vision for the country is one of meaningful change in their lives sochlt it was a great night for joe biden. >> let me just capture what "the new york times" wrote, which is joe biden did fine and that might have been enough, and the quote here is far from perfect, mr. biden nonetheless achieved some of the goals that seemed to allude him last time. he certainly was fired up. but one thing that people have been talking about is in defending the obama legacy, why not talk about preexistin...

Some of the best debaters in the democratic party, they certainly were not holding back in attacking him and coming at him from every direction and he fended those attacks off. most importantly, he turned the conversation to donald trump. he made a clear and concise case against trump. i think one of the biggest applause lines of the nature was his opening nature where he said directly to the president we're not going to leave it to you. and he made a really strong kies for a biden presidency, which would be a complete departure from the kind of failed moral leadership that we're seeing in the...

General. >> michael steele, you tweeted at one point, who lost the dem debate? barack obama got unnecessarily trashed by his own team by obamacare, deportations. >> it was the most amazing thing to watch. it was almost like slow motion at a certain point. it's like you guys realize you're taking down the most popular democratic president in history outside of fdr, right? so i guess what jennifer is saying, but i don't think this is the way the democrats really want this to play out. i had a moment where i was sitting there watching this and i was thinking barack obama 2020, meet george brush 2...