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Moderate to a party that wants a future candidate but still wants a moderate and somebody who wants to scare them. i thought delaney did a good job as the puginist to bring down warren and sanders. because she was kind of on paper first, it was a good night for warren. nobody took her down. >> i strongly agree with that last line. it was elizabeth warren's debate going in and it stayed that way all the way through. i didn't see anybody gain on her at any point in it. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, i don't think so much they made a tactical decision not to argue with each other. there is ...

Breadsticks, everything right up to that, and the other side of the party trying to be the moderate saying, we can't promise this stuff. >> but a tricky night, brian, for many of the moderates on stage like congressman ryan, who is best known in politics for running against speaker pelosi to take control of the gavel. whether it was former governor hickenlooper of colorado or senator klobuchar of minnesota or congressman ryan, they found themselves actually not serving from question to question as the foil against the liberal favorites on stage, senator sanders and senator warren. instead it w...

Republicans, that was a very strong moment. >> i thought buttigieg's line of the night was, if we go with a bunch of far left policies, they're going to cause a bunch of crazy socialists. and if we go with a bunch of conservative policies, they'll call us a bunch of crazy conservatives. i thought that was a solid line. look, i want to go there. the clear intent was to spark fights. you go after you, and you over there, go after that one over there. that was -- that seemed to be the point of the moderation, and so in all that fighting about policy, i'm not sure any of the candidates got that mu...

>> thank you so much. what a great interview for us to do here as we kick off our post-debate coverage. now, any moment when we wrap we're going to hand it over to brian williams. as i mentioned earlier in our broadcast, chris matthews also out there in michigan for us. before i go any further, though, i want to bring in one of our analysts right now, karine jean-pierre, who i think viewers recognize from a lot of political nights. nice to see you. >> happy debate night. >> happy debate night. i'm so glad i got to get the ground report from jaden. >> that was so dosh. >> 11. he was on top of i...

Are two lanes here, right? >> boy, did we see that. >> there is sort of a hope and future lane, and tomorrow we'll have more of those candidates who will be on stage. there are three lanes. the second one is obviously the clear progressive lane which warren and sanders share. i was surprised they didn't try to narrow that down. they did seem, as chris said, to be kind of on the same team fighting off all the moderates to their left and to their right on that stage. but among the moderates, the job was to then narrow it down and become the moderate. because right now joe biden occupies that lan...