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I think what he did was, he tried to diminish our footprint around the world and the view that that would eliminate this major aggravating factor in the world, which was the united states presence in foreign lands. and their military. well, he's done it, we're out of iraq, we're seeing what's happening there. we're getting out of afghanistan, the enemy is known for sometime that we are. and it's not at all clear to me that we -- i mean clearly, look, you can blame george bush for getting us into iraq, but he bee kei queathed to president obama a better situation than we have now. >> joe biden ...