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President being indicted, that s a good thing for the campaign and the nomination process. it is truly crazy. she has made some pretty insane comments. what you just said, what we have right now is a former president who has big the biggest convoluted presidency, the fact that he is running away with the nomination should be completely shameful. i m glad like those americans that justice is actually but is not something we should celebrate, it shows he has worked hard to destroy our institutions and is glad that we are getting some justice. as you mentioned, he is 35% of folks in the polls that will vote for him. ....
Your line of vision? what can you tell us about the dynamic between them? , yes i was in an adjacent courtroom where there was a live feed from four camera angles. the reporting that i heard from a few reporters we had in the courtroom itself confirmed what i saw, which is donald trump not making eye contact with really anybody. not interacting with anybody. he certainly did not look in the direction of jack smith, whereas jack smith seemed to be focused like a laser beam on donald trump. and then jack smith engaged in pleasantries after they carry with any number of folks in the audience. so yeah, two very different approaches by two very different men. during the course of the brief arraignment hearing. glenn, you said trump did not look at jack smith. but let s talk about what he did do in the courtroom. one pool reporter from abc reported observing trump shake his head and irritation when the judge was reading the ....
Think about, it if you are a witness against donald trump, and he, for the first time is getting the evidence, including what you said about him in the grand jury and you know you are a future trial witness against donald trump, and one of the first things you see is donald trump, the person against whom you are about to testify, has posted something that if you go after, me i m coming after you? that has a natural tendency to interfere with witnesses and interfere with the due administration of justice. i am hopeful we will see the presiding judge, judge tanya chuck, can at least consider something narrowly tailored restrictions on donald trump s speech and posts, designed to prevent him from being able to intimidate witnesses we just saw the sketches from the courtroom, you have an interesting perspective. you saw trump in jack smith a few feet apart, where they end ....
You could also look at computer trespass charges. there was the attempt in coffee county to access the actual machines that were located there that were tallying the ballots. i think critically, overall looking for, is whether or not fani willis charges we racketeering. fani willis is known for that. charged it s definitely within her specialty wheel house. there is certainly a number of predicate offenses, meaning there is crimes that are of the state and federal level that can be charged against donald trump in this instance. a lot of people are going to look and see whether or not racketeering is a part of this indictment, and whether or not, and emphasis on the coconspirators who conspired with donald trump to be able to commit this crime. katie, if he were charged, this would be his fourth indictment this year. how will all of the prosecutors manage this? will they make sure there s no scheduling overlap? and which cases take precedence? so, there is this traditional theor ....
Him or himself that will dictate when the case goes to trial. we talked about the red pen you. have what stood out to you in the 45-page indictment of the federal election? case i ve got it. here you guys are welcome to everybody can come check this out. it s 45 pages, it s fascinating because has been, said it s a shouting indictment. not just a sneaking indictment. the level of specificity and detail was profound. it was actually exquisite in terms of how surgically jack smith put together this indictment. it is not flattery, it is honesty. you can read this, case not be a lawyer and be able to follow along. simply put, it was a knowing pressure campaign by donald trump and his coconspirators to not only start with state officials but move on to the doj, mike pence, and ultimately, violence on january 6th. it was all done knowingly by donald trump. katie phang, thank you so much for your insight. let s bring in peter, baker msnbc political analysis, chief white house corr ....