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Terms of civil rights would be okay, we know what the record was 30 years ago, and we know it's in controversy. he did go down in a republican committee and that's important. but what has been his record since then? and i think in fairness, people ought to scrutinize that and then make the judgment not simply go back the 30 years but we've had lots of people who have been major civil rights advocates over time who came out of the south and changed their minds over times, there are others that we've seen who've had conversions in effect, and have -- become much stronger defenders so in fairness...

Minister trying to move turkey from what was a largely secularr state, now towards more of a religious state, and there's a lot of evidence here that the latest straw that broke the camel's back in turkey was the change of the liquor laws there in turkey. it brought a lot of the youth and secular youth out to the street, and that is who is there in the square right now. the prime minister has remained very defiant through all this and says these protests are over. i don't want to talk about it. i don't want to do anything, and that's not gone over very well with the united states, the rest of ...