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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111203:20:37:00

Moms who are about to give birth. the noes tenth child, arthur jr., their second son to be given that name, was born in july of 1967. 18 years after marie noe gave birth to her first child. like catherine before him, arthur was kept in the hospital for observation. doctors and nurses were also observing the noes behavior during this time and they noted how little the couple visited their newborn baby. one nurse said that they came twice during the three months the baby was there. without solid evidence against the noes, the authorities couldn t keep little arty in the hospital any longer. three months after he went home, marie noe reported finding her tenth child face-up, gasping for breath. and turning blue. arthur jr. died january 2, 1968. he was just 5 months old. ....

Marie Noe , Arthur Noe , July Of 1967 , Newborn Baby , The Noes , Authorities Couldn T , January 2 1968 ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111203:20:17:00

Up with was dr. depena and dr. halbert fillinger who had recently joined the medical examiner s staff as an assistant medical examiner, got a grant. the grant was that they could offer the noes free medical care in order to allow them to monitor mrs. noe s pregnancy and her childbirth and the child s life after the child was born. but the noes rejected the offer. the noes were told by their doctor, and they told this to me, that they shouldn t get involved with this study because these big highfalutin doctors in the medical examiner s office were going to take their baby away from them. in 1963, theresa, the eighth child was born. she died after only six hours from a blood abnormality. dr. salvatore cuciatta, who delivered theresa, said he also recommended marie noe get additional care and psychiatric treatment beyond what she was getting from her primary care physician, dr. gangemi. but this offer was also rejected. ....

Constance Noe , Molly Depena , Medical Examiner , Assistant Medical Examiner , Halbert Fillinger , Medical Care , The Noes , Salvatore Cuciatta , Blood Abnormality , Marie Noe , Primary Care Physician ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111203:20:09:00

It was considered an odd case. constance was the first noe baby the doctor performed an autopsy on. the doctor said she found no apparent cause of death. but instead of ruling it crib death, or sids, she said the cause was undetermined. no cause of death is apparent in the conduct of the autopsy. it was just nothing. which, of course, is quite unusual. the first person i called was molly depena. she is a very famous, used to be a very famous pediatric pathologist. she had done a number of the original autopsies when she lived in philadelphia in the 50s and 60s and she d also been the first person to ever let out there had been suspicions about the noes way back when. she recalled the medical examiner at the time. dr. joseph spellman, who is dead, that he believed the noes had been responsible for their children s deaths. the doctor says the diagnosis of crib death just wasn t possible in several children from the same family. ....

Crib Death , It Crib Death , Todd Case , Noe Baby The Doctor , Autopsy On , Molly Depena , The Noes , North Philadelphia , Medical Examiner , Joseph Spellman , 50s And 60s ,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111203:20:43:00

we released the article to them the minute that it was available. and what i was told was that they took the article, they highlighted it, the parts that they needed for information, and they went and took the noes in for questioning. we weren t told about any of this. it was all happening in secret. on the evening of march 25th, 1998, arthur and marie noe were taken to philadelphia police headquarters, separated and questioned. this was the first time, according to police records, the pair was questioned outside their own home. and the first time they were questioned separately. they spoke to mr. noe for a short period of time and spoke to mrs. noe for a long period of time. mr. noe was sitting in the area watching tv, not understanding why his wife, they were taking so long with his wife. two detectives questioned marie noe for 11 hours. approximately a week before they brought the noes in for questioning, police got some new ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111203:20:34:00

Led by doctors hal fillinger and molly depena, the medical examiner s office launched an investigation. interviewing neighbors, family members and as many doctors as they could find. and what they discovered was disturbing. they went to talk to the noes doctor, dr. gangemi. a physician the noes loved. they had no idea what he was telling the medical examiner in his investigation was of the extreme suspicion of the noes. he described her as being possibly schizophrenic, possibly psychotic. and he really had grave questions about her mental capacities. investigators with the medical examiner s office also learned that marie noe claimed to have been raped, at least twice. once when she was pregnant with her first child, and a second time, exactly nine months before the birth of her fourth child. she was found by her husband, tied up in his neckties in their closet and claiming that somebody had come, that jumped out of the closet, surprised ....

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