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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

heidy wagner and conrad truman had a powerful connection. a deep love envied by others. then one fateful night, the young couple was jolted by unforeseen tragedy when heidy was killed by a single john gunshot to the head. in the aftermath, fingers were pointed. but where the aimed at an innocent man? here s josh mankiewicz with as night fell . they seem so in congress. the soaring majesty of utah s wasatch mountains and the story of a beautiful woman, struck down in her youth. it was a lot of things. tragic. crushing. stunning. but was it an accident? or a suicide? or a murder? police felt they knew. but as most cops who will tell you, both the evidence and the jury have their own stories to tell. and the answers are not always so clear. certainly, that is true for this story. and quite possibly for the woman at its heart. her name? heidy wagner. as a baby, she was favored. everybody loved her. she could do no wrong. autumn was one of heidy s four sisters. she was ju

Transcripts For MSNBCW Dateline 20240702

you just wonder how this could happen. it seems very surreal. a quiet night at home shattered by a gunshot. she came out of the shower and i heard a pop. and there s blood. a young life dying on the floor. she wasn t talking at all. i m asking, what happened here? i was utterly confuse. so many different stories about what might have happened. he said many things that night. maybe someone shot something at the house. at one point he said it was 80% suicide. police had their own theory. i thought, oh, man, there s something going on here. we don t see a lot of women commit suicide naked. his stories weren t adding up. but something else was it adding up either. a key piece of evidence. we went to the house and we walked in and we think, ha. would in the stake in measurement send an innocent man to prison? or free a guilty one? we thought it was over. we thought this was settled. one suspect, so many stories, only one of them could be true.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:25:00

remember, the states own medical examiner couldn t say whether heidy s death was a homicide. and johnson knew that would be a huge hurdle in court. based on my experience, courts with juries, and medical examiners carry lot of weight. so, johnson and wallace showed the m. e. a 96-page powerpoint presentation of all their evidence. including those measurements. hoping something would sway him. the presentation worked. the medical examiner changed his ruling. two homicide. it sounds like one of the things that got the medical examiner to move from any conclusive to homicide, was the measurements of the crime scene suggested that her body was too far from mr. truman said she had been shot. exactly. so, after a ten month investigation, the orem police department and the da s office arrested conrad truman. and charged him with his wife s murder. my mom called me and i fell to the ground, crying and so

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:26:00

medical examiner couldn t say whether heidy s death was a homicide. and johnson knew that would be a huge hurdle in court. based on my experience, courts with juries, and medical examiners cork carry a lot of weight. so, johnson and wallace showed the m. e. a 96-page powerpoint presentation of all their evidence. including those measurements. hoping something would sway him. the presentation worked. the medical examiner changed his really. two homicide. it sounds like one of the things that got the medical examiner to move from any conclusive to homicide, was the measurements of the crime scene suggested that her body was too far from mr. truman said she had been shot. exactly. so, after a ten month investigation, the orem police department and the da s office arrested conrad truman. and charged him with his wife s murder. my mom called me and i fell

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210808 08:27:00

suggested that her body was too far from mr. truman said she had been shot. exactly. so, after a ten month investigation, the orem police department and the da s office arrested conrad truman. and charged him with his wife s murder. my mom called me and i fell to the ground, crying and so happy that he was finally behind bars. going into trial, what did you think? i thought we had a strong circumstantial case. at trial, the prosecution argued domestic violence ending in homicide. the defense? self inflicted gunshot wound. the jury sided with the state. conrad truman was convicted of s murder. it was like, finally, got him. finally got him. and as far as you knew, that was it? that was. it did you think that was it? i did. but if you think that was it, well, then you haven t been

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