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>> they don't need democracy to when >> i know, i mean this is why i'll always be in therapy. fairness >> what is a about where we ar as a country, where we are i politics, that we coul potentially have a 202 election with both candidate being well over the age that most people want to retire, at a time when some of the bigges issues to deal with our around cyber warfare, a.i.. the environment. >> yeah, well, i mean look paul mccartney's 80. martin scorsese the 80s. i'd vote for either of them to be president carol king is 81 i think what joe biden showe me is that i don't fear an older presid...

Joe biden has been attacked and ridiculed by a lot of people for his belief that perhaps there could be bipartisan action on a series of things. well, now that is coming to fruition and, you know, the question is whether this will be a benefit or not. >> looking at this list, the chips act, infrastructure, postal reform, the burn pit, the pack act, emmett till anti-lynching law, on and on and on, some major bipartisan accomplishments. how come you think this has not benefited joe biden in the polls? it shows you can govern from the center, there is some indication of progress, but he's under 4...