bernie graham's comments. i think the term is terrible. it's scaring people. let me say very clearly the vaccines are incredibly effective in preventing hospitalizations, severe cases. over 90%. let's not let the language get in the way of that. you know, i don't know. it would depend a lot on what the level of community spread was where you started doing the swabbing. some of that has been done and you pick up people who have virus in their nose who have no symptoms. yeah, some of that is going on. what is the attack rate if you put vaccinated people in a highly infectious environment? we don't really quite know. i suspect it's a lot lower than if you're unvaccinated even to be swab positive but it clearly happens. bernie is right. we shouldn't be surprised by that. the vaccines were never designed to prevent asymptomatic virus in your nose. the point was to keep people from getting sick and dying and