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Besides their active roles in their church, the couple were also educators.

Your son was aware of violence. >> yes. >> reporter: he wrote, with all of the shootings and police violence on minorities, you have to have a sense of light inside of you. >> that's who he was. that's who he is. everywhere he went, he wanted to leave a little bit of his light. >> reporter: one semester shy of graduation and now another family in our country in a fight they did not want. >> i had just gotten off the phone with him. i had just gotten off the phone with him. >> reporter: a tremendous amount of courage to sit there and talk about this with us. and today, both happy and her son, t...

How much of this is a function of not the split delegates or the money or all this but the fact that the actual debate is a terrible debate? that we're complaining not -- of course you want to short an lousy debate, but you could have a long fantastic debate as well. >> no. absolutely. look, the -- if you're an independent voter, and let's say rugt now the independent voter is the key to the outcome in november, first of all, the entire field, the bachmanns, the perrys, the her man caines, you're convinced this is nothing more than a clown circus, number one. then, number two, as you narrow th...

Momentum heading into the next early states. jon: well, most of those players that you just mentioned, the bachmanns, the perrys, on the chart, the graph, you know, it goes like this. the real clear politics graph, it goes up, and then it goes down. but all of those people as newt gingrich is falling, all of those other candidates seem to be coming up again. >> yeah. i mean, that is one of the consequences. we've seen this time and time again, and it's totally unlike the race in 2008. we actually have on real clear politics, you can go back and look at the polling, exactly where this race stoo...

>> so sort through. we've got a lot of numbers to talk about. david, talk about how these polls matter. we've seen the ups and downs, the bachmanns, the cains, the perrys. newt's up now, some polls showing him going down. does it matter that he has such a commanding lead right now? >> i think it does because i think it represents consolidating an anti-romney vote against him. we're just a couple of weeks away from iowa, and he's got that put together. and in a commanding way, he's got that put together. but i think there's a volatility. i think right now republican primary goers have a couple ...