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More complicated question. i think to some extent the administration has gotten out ahead of itself as we saw in the clip where president obama talked about wanting to do this. now they are trying to do it as they go down this path. they're realizing for both institutional, bureaucratic, political and legal reasons, and to some extent, national security reasons, coming out and publicly about a covert program is hard. it doesn't mean it shouldn't be done but it has to be done carefully and i think that there is a lot of has not wringing about how to do this. it is why we haven't actually seen t...

Inside the agency. it is sort of a paradox that the drone program has in some ways given the cia its highest profile in the war on terror, although it is a program that they maintain covert and don't want to talk about. so the question is, do they want to give up their toys. and you know, at the higher levels, my understanding is that the agency has signed off on this. most of the administration has signed off on this. the president has as well. so the question is, how do they do it? i do think that this is something that john brennan still wants to do. it is complicated and the devil is in th...

Of the situation and the perception of the reality of the situation. do you think that most people who are inconvenienced by this, waiting in longer security lines, do you think they're standing there with their luggage thinking this is because of the sequester? if they are playinging that connection, who do you think they're blaming for those delays? >> well, they might not use the word sequester but they definitely blame washington and they probably blame both the president and the congress with weighted emphasis depending on their politics. the fact is i took some time this morning to read ...

The best opportunities to pass meaningful legislation are not in the wake of these sort of crazy one off extraordinary events. what do you make of that? >> well, it is a real conundrum. on the one hand, holmes was right. you don't want extraordinary circumstances to create general law for average circumstances. but in another sense, this was not extraordinary. in fact, we've been living in something of a bubble. the fbi has done actually a fairly amazing job over the last decade of stopping many terrorist acts like when they occurred in other countries and europe and the middle east. and this ...

Our drone program is what drone program, right? >> if you have a program that is operating in the shadows, eventually you're going to have problems with it. right now, we use drones primarily as we've been about by the cia to kill al qaeda members. and i use that term loosely. sometimes these are al qaeda affiliates, people inspired by the same goals as al qaeda. well, other countries eventually will have armed drones and they can be using them against human rights activists. and we won't have a lot of moral ground to stand on. if we've been operating in the shadows. it goes back to 9/11. 9/11...