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>> he has been deposed before. some supporters of the president said he's actually done a lot better than people may think. there were concerns, though, from people close to the president that an interview like this could obviously expose him to possible charges of perjury so legally speaking, even if he's not under oath for the interview, could he face perjury charges if he lied? >> he could be liable 4001 or making false statements to investigators in the course of an interview even if he's not under oath like he would be in a grand jury type proceeding. i think the big question for these in...

There is no obama in the picture because the president doesn't deal with telephone record subpoenas and there is no holder because he recused himself which is a matter of public record. >> shouldn't he have been told? shouldn't obama have been told? >> no. he shouldn't have been told about the telephone record subpoenas. so that i think is the fact. that's how the investigation works. number two. this is my last one. irs. we start with cincinnati on the left. what's going on in low level employees. it's bad. that goes to lois lerner. if you go up higher to the testimony and the top of the agen...

Better than a lot of people may think. there are concerns that people close to him fear it might -- could he still face perjury charges. >> even if he is not under oath like he would be in a grand jury type proceeding. the big question for these interviews is what is the scope of them substantively. are the interviews going to be limited only to matters pertaining to the russian influence investigation or is it going to cover obstruction or start covering issues involving money during the campaign or personal and corporate finances. the level of risk for him in both preparing and being ready a...