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Judges reduced jury verdicts i civil cases all the time because the damages awarded by the jury have to make some economic sense the jury can't just pick a hug number to make them feel good. so it is entirely possible tha the jury could be completely convinced of everything, of al of the dominion evidence presented in the case, and award dominion a lower amoun of dominion is getting in th settlement and there's absolutely n question that dominion would spend the rest of rupert murdoch's life trying to collect that money, if it wa awarded to them by the jury. winning jury verdicts and civi case...

Defamation cases to even reach a jury the fact that fox has alread reached this point is quit remarkable in and of itself. this case is shining a spotlight on how new organizations, if you want t call fox that, cover dubious claims promoted and broadcaste by organizations if you broadcast or prin something that is false or i you are reckless and taking th steps to make sure that it i true and accurate, then you ma be held accountable. that is a new. >> joining me now, my colleagu katie phang, host of the katie phang show on msnbc. she's actually in delaware for the dominion trial for us. jerem...

The january 6th attack everything you said about th 2020 election. it just wasn't it, was unthinkable to me that fox would admit that there is some kind of wrongdoing there that they, that is at the hear of this case >> let's talk about rupert murdoch. he has become an interesting figure in this particular case obviously he is a very central figure to the existence of fox there's no doubt about that. but how he has played a pivota role in this, some are calling his possible court appearance date with destiny. how much of an embarrassment i this for him and what do you think is going through hi...

The lawyer, so semi-straight here could this be a indication that a settlement might be in the works? >> yeah. so, you can settle even on the courthouse steps, on the trial you can settle right before jury verdict is rendered in th case, frankly, you could settl after the verdict annual - if you are going to appeal everybody has wondered aloud why has in this case settled already. it seems to be the case that dominion is barreling toward the finish line, towar success. and why has fox not pointed up the money? number one, we do know dominio is claiming billions of dollar in damages let's be cl...

One and two, elsa thing foxe at this kind of -- where if they are going to settle - that would mean that fox i saying that i am completel culpable for what i am accused of doing by dominion you know, fox may want to say, i'm going to pump this to jury and blame a jury if a jur comes back and say that i am liable for defamation and fo billions of dollars. but we do know that jury selection wasn't completed i want to emphasize this we don't have a sworn injury we don't have that - it will begin on tuesday morning, allegedly at 9:00, an then we are supposed to have a 15-minute recess, and then g ...