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Jillian: do you think the president respects the law when it comes to states rights or is he saying i can do what i want and it doesn't matter, the rights of the states? >> no doubt he looks at the federal law as his choice, if you wants to follow was passed by congress, his job is not to change the law whether to follow the whether he likes them or not. i have to do the same in the executive branch, he doesn't do that. he said i don't have to follow laws, the constitutional thing doesn't work for me so he tells people not to enforce the law and that is happening along the border. you can comp...

More likely place together to go. >> how about the transcript. >> if the transcript didn't exist and if the phone call didn't happen then that might work. but the problem is there is a phone call where it's more than a presumption. and and then there is a transcript where he is saying it. i think i feel like the throwing the giuliani under the bus thing doesn't work. because when that happens it's usually -- dsh it's the president saying i didn't even know. like this was going on. people under me were doing things. i had no idea. but trump has his fingers all over this. >> and trump repeatedly...

Choi choi choice. >> i think that's been the latest choice. bill clinton has been saying the flip-flopper thing doesn't work. the people in the middle says i like somebody who is flexible whereas now it seems as if the barack obama campaign has adopted the tact that mitt romney, he is so extremely conservative. >> uh-huh. well, one person who still in the race is newt gingrich. we thought that maybe he -- after the performance last night would bow out. that still could happen in the next few days. but he still now seemingly more on the side of mitt romney than he's been in the past. here's a s...

Agree with you. its -- the whole she set him up thing doesn't work for me. >> you don't think there is potential for extortion the whole way it sounded scripted and she egged him on and knew the buttons. >> his part wasn't scripted. >> yes, that's true. do you think he may have been in character? >> i was going to say robert pointed out that gibb sean just did a movie where he talks to a beaver. the beaver is a dark comedy about a troubled man who feels compeled to communicate through a beaver hand puppet. i think we should blame the hand puppet. >> that is a happened puppet on the phone. that...