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>> but you indicted 13 russians and, like, everything that happened in the seychelles means nothing. >> no, no, the seychelles were amazing and it's definitely -- it's definitely something. it's just like the more time that goes by, you know, the more that i keep thinking about obstruction. >> this is just [ bleep ] embarrassing. collusion is literally the only thing i've been looking forward to for the past year. >> at this point i honestly feel like i'm only half in with collusion. >> joining me now is julia ansley, and matt miller, former chief spokesman for the justice department and msnbc...

Intent and look at all the words. they're now backchannelling to the nk income orth koreans them verify the offer. there was no national securitile meeting, no principals or deputy meeting. it's all not just spontaneous but some would say reckless. >> well, it's certainly a big gamble in terms of the negotiations with north korea. peter's reporting has been phenomenal. you can place yourself in the west wing as things were unfolding. i i think thits rather unconventional. the risks are, first of alling, you don't have the exact details of what the offer looks like. we haven't heard from the no...