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Zac, lord goldsmith, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you for having me. Its a pleasure to have you here. Just a couple of months ago, you left rishi sunak� s government, and, as you left, you lobbed a political grenade in his direction. Why did you do that . My concern is that, you know, im maybe a rare thing, a minister who cares passionately, or cared passionately about my portfolio. And ifound myjob was becoming untenable, it was becoming impossible for me to go forward. It was becoming virtually impossible to prevent government from sliding back. And the key issue is this pledge which was mad...

Zac, lord goldsmith, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you for having me. Its a pleasure to have you here. Just a couple of months ago, you left rishi sunak� s government and, as you left, you lobbed a political grenade in his direction. Why did you do that . My concern is that, you know, im maybe a rare thing, a minister who cares passionately, or cared passionately about my portfolio. And ifound myjob was becoming untenable, it was becoming impossible for me to go forward. It was becoming virtually impossible to prevent government from sliding back. And the key issue is this pledge which was made...

To prop it up. with respect, you're not answering my specific question, which many people will be very interested to hear your answer. no, you're right. so, i'm delighted that he gets that, and i think he does get that. my concern about the labour party at the moment — and i don't say this as a tribal politician because i'm not a tribal politician — is that i think there is a blind spot on the natural environment. so, everything, when the labour party thinks environment, when it talks about the environment, it's thinking carbon and taxation, regulation and all the things that go with that....

President trump than it did under president 0bama, despite all his efforts to prop it up. with respect, you're not answering my specific question, which many people will be very interested to hear your answer. no, you're right. so, i'm delighted that he gets that, and i think he does get that. my concern about the labour party at the moment — and i don't say this as a tribal politician because i'm not a tribal politician — is that i think there is a blind spot on the natural environment. so, everything, when the labour party thinks environment, when it talks about the environment, it's thi...

So, i'm delighted that he gets that, and i think he does get that. my concern about the labour party at the moment — and i don't say this as a tribal politician because i'm not a tribal politician — is i think there is a blind spot on the natural environment. so everything, when the labour party thinks environment, when it talks about the environment, it's thinking carbon and taxation, regulation and all the things that go with that. and the simple truth is there is no pathway to net zero, there's no solution to climate change that does not involve nature, massive efforts to protect and re...