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Megan tuohy and michael barbaro, who is also the host of the run up podcast. so michael, you heard what donald trump said today, saying, quote, this is another fabricated and false story and calling you both discredited writers. your reaction? >> i think he also said he thought we both should be fired, but we're very much employed. we thoroughly reported the episodes and the characters in this story, jessica leeds and rachel crooks. we talked not only to them multiple times, but we spoke to people around them, in the case of jessica leeds, who was just on your show, that meant speaking to two ...

Loretta lynch failed to do so especially with the fbi's background work and investigation here, it would create a crisis within our government unseen since watergate. agree? >> well, and much worse. because if you've got the entire fbi -- look, you're talking about top secret documents being removed. you're talking about potential public corruption. i mean, if you look at watergate -- i'm not defending watergate, but it was a bad -- a third-rate break-in and it had its own elements of where the nixon administration was going to try to use the irs, they did not. here we know the whole history w...

Background work and investigation here, it would create a crisis within our government unseen since watergate. agree? >> well, and much worse. because if you've got the entire fbi -- look, you're talking about top secret documents being removed. you're talking about potential public corruption. i mean, if you look at watergate -- i'm not defending watergate, but it was a bad -- a third-rate break-in and it had its own elements of where the nixon administration was going to try to use the irs, they did not. here we know the whole history with the irs and the targeting. but if you look at the fa...

She's back there. what a lie it was. no. what a lie, katy tur. what a lie it was from nbc to have written that. was a total lie. and they did a story, i didn't know they had a group like this, where they actually criticized the media. they said it was a total lie. i loved it. i loved it. then other people pick it up. it's nbc so somebody picks it up. third-rate reporter. remember that. third rate. third rate. i said the mainstream media wants to surrender our constitution, and our constitutional rights, and i don't want that. i want isis to surrender. okay? i want isis to surrender. very simpl...

What a lie it was from nbc to have written that. was a total lie. and they did a story, i didn't know they had a group like this, where they actually criticized the media. they said it was a total lie. i loved it. i loved it. then other people pick it up. it's nbc so somebody picks it up. third-rate reporter. remember that. third rate. third rate. i said the mainstream media wants to surrender our constitution, and our constitutional rights, and i don't want that. i want isis to surrender. okay? i want isis to surrender. very simple. it's very simple. here's what happened. it's been a great da...