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I'll ask you. do you think the president is tone deaf? does he have someone in his staff who can educate him on how hurtful some of the comments are? >> i think the default position is, in general, we default to the side of the cops and we believe them. that doesn't mean there aren't bad apples. at times they commit horrific crimes. when they do, they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. as they did in this case, that should be the result here. that doesn't mean that we should somehow ignore to me the far

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Involved, javier bacerra in terms of the investigation. this is a case that illustrate why it's important to have the police on the side of the community. and donald trump i hate to bring his name into it but we're on the national show. donald trump today through his white house spokesman sarah sanders says it's a local issue. but this is a national issue affecting communities all across this country. and it's important that we have leadership from the top that demonstrates why policing must be considerate, responsible and respectful of the people they police. >> steve cortez i want to bring y...

Caring out the letter of the law. the president is supportive of law enforcement. but at the same time in these specific cases in these specific instances, those would be left up to local authorities to make that determination and not something for the federal government to weigh into. >> so the white house is calling the shooting of a black man a local matter. a lot of people were outraged by that. are you? >> you know, don, i'm not outraged by that because i do think this is a local matter. at least for now. we don't know all the facts in this case. i don't want to comment on thissis case sp...

Bigger issue, which is not cop violence against minorities. it is minorities, violence upon each other. >> you can explain to me what that has to do with stephon clark who wasn't in a black on black, as you call it, stand-off. he was unarmed and shot by police. are you going on stay cop was black? it's stale police issue. i don't know why you keep bringing that up. it has nothing to do with this story. absolutely nothing. >> what i'm saying, again, i'm not talking about the particulars of this case. >> that's what we're here to talk about. that's why we invited you on to talk about this. we di...