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Black lady courtroom last week, i can't remember who made this point, but they said -- they reminded everybody that ted cruz and judge jackson were at harvard law school at the same time, and that he might be mad -- might be hating because she's sitting where he wants to be. one more question, aunt gloria, before we go -- before we go to break. i know you've had a lot of thoughts now on the infamous slap at the oscars. would love your thoughts. whose team are you on? >> i'm on chris rock's team. i was so disappointed in will smith. he did not need to do that. it was a joke. you need to handle ...

With judge jackson maintaining her composure when, by all -- i saw what i saw, and if she had gotten up from that table, strode over to lindsey graham and popped him, i would have been like, hey. but we know nothing would have happened. >> right, i understand. >> i would have loved to have seen it. >> you know what? on that note -- we're going to leave it there because i'm already over time. we have to take a break. stay with us. this conversation continues after the break. later, the california congresswoman zoe lofgren joins us to discuss the january 6 committee hearings. watch yasmin voss...

And i think she will. >> aunt gloria, i know you sporadically watch the hearings because you didn't want to see her attacks. i'm wondering, did you see senator cory booker when he was talking to judge jackson, and when she was wiping away tears at what he had to say? i'm wondering -- >> yes. >> what emotions did you have, not only hearing what senator booker was saying, but watching the reaction of judge jackson? >> she was wonderful. i think she was so proud that someone was defending her and, you know, we've seen it so many times, that people are going to attack you and it was so wonderful t...

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