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Employ influencers. one thing i've seen work directly is education on site at the point of inoculation particularly at work place events where vaccines are going into the arms of workers, at factories, you name it, other frontline facilities. and you know why that's important, nicolle, we've talked for years about how health care access is inequitable, that we don't -- i bet a lot of people are outside of the public health system. they don't have a trusted medical provider that they lean on for information. and we're facing the reckoning of that. what i hear from people, young people, even tho...

Nose or lungs, you have a stickier version of virus, you have higher viral load and that contributes to increased contagiousness. that's the concern. yes. even if fully vaccinated, some individuals, those older or immuno compromised might have more virus in them if exposed, could potentially transmit. quickly say, the big question, how will this be perceived in state capitals in the south as you mentioned in the sun belt, spent a lot of time in tucson medical center, caring in their overwhelmed icus. how will the governors interpret this, state policy is the big issue, not a cdc recommendation...

Others. what we need especially for those who are unvaccinated tend to be younger people. we need to change their threat perception. now they think that that the covid-19, the -- what we need is a one-on-one conversation. and when we do, and we address the concerns, it works. i'm not sure but they're afraid of. >> no one's door going door to door and jabbing people with injections. it's a conversation. vin gupta thank you for being with us. coming up, more than six months after the insurrection in the capital, police is still working waiting for accountability. two of our favorite political ob...

People and governors pushing back on the idea that people might talk to people to overcome their vaccine hesitancy. >> i'm not sure what they're afraid of. i've seen it work. whenever i've been doing it, seen it work and witnessed others. what we need is especially for those unvaccinated, tend to be younger people. need to change their threat perception. they're think covid-19, the strain that put mom and dad and grandpa and grandma in icu, not the delta variant and threat to them in their home. when we address their concerns, it does work. not sure what they're afraid of. >> and no one is goi...

At 10 a.m. May 22, the 150th commencement took place for the class of 2020. Students returned to their alma mater for the traditional event since last year’s was canceled due to the pandemic. The 151st commencement for the class of 2021 happened afterwards at 2 p.m. It was the first time the ceremony took place outdoors at Kenneth R. Gill Stadium.