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We're seeing self-impeachment. the articles expand every time donald trump gets to a micropho microphone. >> i just got off the phone with a senior administration official who said, that was a "disgrace" for him to say that. you do not reach out to a totalitarian government and say, come investigate us. >> you don't reach out to russia and ask for hillary clinton's emails. >> correct. >> your point they're all hiding under this big desk. >> a bigger desk. >> say one thing publicly, one thing privately, but does it have to get worse and worse and worse for them to finally say, you know, record ...

His head you know that he sees the value of even negative coverage of talking about pence staying at a trump property not doral, bedbugs, but the other one in ireland. you know that every time that story is covered trump is happy because it's at least press coverage for a brand of his. but with this, you just -- i have no idea what his end game could be when he continues to prove that he was completely wrong. >> well, it's not an end game. sam stein, i always said that because donald trump surprised the mainstream media in 2016 with his unorthodox campaign it's -- his terrible campaign in many...

Things to be talking about. >> yeah. there is. and of course adrienne elrod, again, we talked about this the last hour. he's not playing three dimensional chess. he is actually eating the chess pieces and susan del percio was talking about him passing on and we had to move on, but yeah, come on. but adrienne, you know, it's -- it's so fascinating that -- because people get surprised by donald trump one time. i think they overestimate his ability to surprise them the next time where here's a guy again, let's just -- let's look at what happened when people got a chance to vote 2018. the largest ...

Disappointed with president obama. winning campaigns are about the future and we need to hear these candidates' visions for what they're going to do. >> okay. that's a good point. so who's -- are they listening? because i think all the people that were up there on that stage have some pretty good political instincts, right? and when you're -- when you're running for office, yeah, you should listen to your advisers, but i think you have to go with your gut. do you think they're listening to their gut or is someone advising them saying you got to do this and you got to do that, maybe someone who...

And when you're -- when you're running for office, yeah, you should listen to your advisers, but i think you have to go with your gut. do you think they're listening to their gut or is someone advising them saying you got to do this and you got to do that, maybe someone who is younger and doesn't have enough political experience or expertise because on the surface it doesn't sound like a smart strategy. >> well, i don't think they were playing three-dimensional chess. i understand what their strategy was. they're going after vice president because he's the front-runner today and they were tryi...