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Then you really are sending a signal you don't want people like me. >> that seems to be the debate in washington. in congress if you look at poll after poll after poll, majority of americans are sympathetic not only toward immigrants but illegal immigrants. fox news put out a poll that showed 69% of people favored a solution that included a path of citizenship. >> you're making my point. is it a threshold issue? >> the anti-immigrant folks have done a much better job or on talk radio, for instance, have done a much better job of persuading people in congress that it's a threshold issue than th...

At the same time, welcomes and celebrates the legal immigrants, the essence of the conservative message should be we want a dynamic nation where anybody with nothing can achieve anything. >> bret: that was a speech well received. back with the panel. charles, your thoughts on all of this? >> well, the sentiments i think are noble. and they're correct. the problem is how do you translate it to policy? that is where i think the republicans really been hurt. they, you know, they, obama got over 70% of the hispanic vote. the hispanics should be natural consistency. any immigrant should be natural ...

On undocumented immigrants. you have to leave. you have to go home. even if places that may not be your home. so once you say that, you really take yourself out of the equation when it comes to coming up with any long-term plans, which is why he couldn't define what his long-term solution is and when you're not in favor of the directive the president came up with last week, it sends a signal to people, if you're not going to help the children who were brought here through no fault of your own, why are are you going to do that? to pander to people who a lot of latinos believe don't like them. i...

Equation when it comes to coming up with any long-term plans, which is why he couldn't define what his long-term solution is and when you're not in favor of the directive the president came up with last week, it sends a signal to people, if you're not going to help the children who were brought here through no fault of your own, why are are you going to do that? to pander to people who a lot of latinos believe don't like them. it's a threshold issue. if you can't help that part of this population, they're going going to listen to you because they think you're in league with or you yourself don...

was raising online. listen to what he said then. >> do you know how much money has been raised by that website he set up? >> i got a note from somebody who seems to have control over one that says there were $700 or $800 in it. i've heard from another there's a couple thousand dollars in one. i don't know who's monitoring them or handling them or if anyone is taking any money out. i don't think so, but just haven't taken that on yet with everything else going on. >> well, today mark o'mara reached out to us saying he now has a much different understanding of his client's finances. i ...