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Quite some time. tell us about chris christie. >> i think if anything, he's almost trying to replicate the straight talk express that sent john mccain to the top in this primary in 2000. he's made that his tag line i'm going to tell to you like it is. he started down that road with the two town hall meetings. everyone i talked to said it is a bad idea at this point to count him out. this is the kind of thing, the kind of state that will respond to that kind of campaigning. we were also talking earlier, i think we saw senator cruz i think he is also somebody who might do unexpectedly well in ne...

This is a generational problem. there has been one bad deal made with public unions after another bad deal. republicans have done it, democrats have done it. and now it's coming due on his watch. >> it's often the problem that the deal isn't bad, but that politicians won't put the money in that they promised in the deal for years and years and years. a then it goes back. >> i'm just point to going to a political problem. this is a delicate issue to run on in general. and to make those arguments when your state's economy is still not doing well, that's what that is about. >> i think it's about ...

The economy in new jersey still sucks. and this is what undercuts the message. i'm all for somebody being an adult and talking about entitlement reform although i would challenge you to tell me when a president has led with entitlement reform and won. >> well, nobody does it any more. >> that's not true but -- >> who has? >> put that aside and ask the question whether this message of entitlement reform how that sits with the new jersey fiscal situation where the state's been downgraded eight times in the last couple years. >> i'm not here defending chris christie. i will say, though chris chri...

There were more than a dozen potential official republican candidates that visited the state of new hampshire. they attended the republican leadership summit considered to be the state's unofficial kickoff for the gop primary. it is a great event. the list of speakers varied from governors to senators to business leaders. a guy named trump. but they all shared one common theme, whether they were being serious or trying to get laughs they were arguing why hillary clinton shouldn't be the nation's next president. >> when i listen to this president, people like hillary clinton, i think they have ...

>> oh, come on. it made a sense in his state senate district to take that position. nobody in the senate, though that ran for president came to the same conclusion. >> and yet people won't let go of that. >> john heilemann, jump in. >> i want to ask you a question about you said will book is about journalism. i want to ask you a question to sum up the totality of your experience at the "new york times". >> all ears here. >> there is certainly a perception that after a point that among a lot of your colleagues that you had ceased to be a reporter and have become an doctoridealog and made your l...