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Authority? yes i mean, it could for the supreme court. everything could be on the table, including papi. a threshold question of whether these anti abortion physicians and medical groups even had no legal standing to even bring this case, and i'm sure that when we see the department of justice appeal, they're really going to hit that strong too. okay? thank you, joan very much . thanks a lot. so the nation's attention captured with that story and this one as well, of course. national city council set to huddle today, possibly vote on reinstating ousted democrat justin jones back to the tenness...

Medication, abortion drugs, but for all drugs, so that's that's a significant question. and then there's other also a threshold question. the groups that sued down in texas specifically looking for this judge and looking for a sympathetic ruling from this judge, those groups you know, could arguably not have legal standing to bring their case that was a very real question. the lower court judge did say that these physicians and medical groups that were claiming an injury to themselves from the use of these of the medication abortion pill had been injured and judge his merrick sided with them, ...

Physically. and so where does that stand and everything, you know. >> the trial now has established as a matter of law and fact that there was a conspiracy, a seditious conspiracy against the united states. this is the first time, though, in at least more than a century in which you could say a president had some relationship to such a conspiracy. the question is now, of course, can you prove it, as bob said, with evidence. the interesting thing about merrick garland's decision to appoint a special counsel, he's made a special threshold decision, he's willing to file against a former president...

He's an active candidate seeking votes? or even if he does bring charges, does it discredit them in the minds of the trump supporting public because he said, this is all politics to try to get me? that is the concern a lot of people have. having said, that there's an interesting observation that one lawyer made. he said look, the fact that merrick garland, the attorney general, was willing to appoint a special counsel may indicate something important. it may indicate that he is past the threshold question of whether he thinks it's appropriate to charge a former president and active presidentia...

Pulling troops back is not enough because they can fall back on their equipment. so, moving heavy forces out is a signal we should watch for. >> let me follow up on that. should we start agreeing to negotiate the terms of any future ukraine entry into nato since there's nothing imminent, not going to happen for six years or a decade. they haven't proved their democracy is strong and they've fought corruption. should we begin talking about that or, as the u.s. has been claiming, is that a nonstarter because it undermines the role of nato? >> well, russia should not have a veto. ukraine and nato...