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Pulled all six of his republican appointees off of your special committee at the same time that he yanked all five of his gop picks off of the january 6th select committee. why did he do that and how does it impact your committee? >> it was a real disappointment to me. i actually spent some time talking to the republican leader about this, assuring him that as chairman i was going to make this committee all about the facts, the analysis, the research, that i was going to do everything in my power to keep it from becoming just another platform for us to, you know, throw mud at each other. i had...

Would be for president zelensky to be forced to investigate american political rivals of the president of the united states. george kent was warned by ukrainian officials rudy giuliani was working in the shadows to try to control ukrainian policy. quote, and i said throw mud at whom? and he said a lot of people. i asked him whom and he said towards masha, towards you, towards others. question, masha is marie yovanovitch? cent -- former ambassador yovanovitch, yes. george kent provided hours of details about rudy giuliani's activities which george kent referred to repeatedly under oath, as quot...

American political rivals of the president of the united states. george kent was warned by ukrainian officials rudy giuliani was working in the shadows to try to control ukrainian policy. the ukrainian minister of the interior told george kent that giuliani's method was to throw mud. quote, and i said, throw mud at whom? and he said, a lot of people. i asked him whom and he said towards masha, towards you, towards others. question, masha is marie yovanovitch? kent, former ambassador yovanovitch, yes. george kent provided hours of details about rudy giuliani's activities which george kent refer...

Cut out of a lot of decisions and process as well. it all factors into all of this, let's be honest, at this moment. but with sondland saying he delivered the message about a quid pro quo in september, do you think this makes it more or less necessary to hear from the whistleblower directly as republicans continue to call for? >> yeah, as we get each piece of if you evidence and each piece of testimony from individuals who had direct first-hand information, first-hand knowledge of the various components of how this transpired, the relevant of what the whistleblower could actually provide in an...