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In all of these matters and the efforts by republicans to go after some of his underlings, some of his deputies and his aides simply does not -- this contradicts that republican push. and i also asked him whether or not he believes sondland was truthful to his committee. >> this is very, obviously, very important because there is an effort to -- apparently to, by the president's allies, to throw sondland under the bus, throw mulvaney under the bus, throw everybody under the bus in an toefrts protect the president. what this call indicates as other testimony has indicated is that the instructio...

President was still pushing privately for these investigations, including into former president -- vice president joe biden. yesterday, also, adam schiff made clear that this shows that the president was directly involved in some of these decisions and that they could no longer blame people below him. >> in the presence of my staff, at a restaurant, ambassador sondland called president trump and told him of his meetings in kyiv. the member of my staff could hear president trump on the phone asking ambassador sondland about the investigations. ambassador sondland told president trump the ukrain...

This new fact not previously in the record he said he believed the committee was following up on it. indeed they are. now we know. >> in terms of the new information ambassador taylor gave today about this conversation the day after president trump is on the phone with president zelensky, in which one of ambassador taylor's staff is overhearing a conversation between sondland and the president, and the president is speaking loud enough where he can hear part of the conversation. and the president is interested in whether the ukrainians are going to do the investigation, and sondland assures hi...

Say this. >> this is very obviously very important because there is an effort apparently to, by the president's allies, to throw sondland under the bus, throw mulvaney, throw anybody under the bus in an effort to protect the president. but what this call indicates as other testimony has likewise indicated, is that the instructions are coming from the president on down. >> reporter: now i also asked adam schiff whether or not he believes that gordon sondland himself told the truth in his testimony. and he said he couldn't recall exactly what told him that ukrainian aid was likely tied to the pu...

Secondhand information. >> the president -- you didn't listen in on president trump and zelensky's call? >> i did not. >> you never talked with chief of staff mulvaney. >> i didn't. >> and you never met the president and it didn't come up. >> and two of those it didn't hear as far as i know -- >> and president zelensky never made an announcement. this is what i can't believe. and you're they're star witness. you're their first witness. >> let me just say that i don't consider myself a star witness for anything. >> they do. you don't. but they do. >> i don't. i'm just responding to -- i'm respo...