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Taja Cheek sits down with Paste to talk about the mainstream visibility of experimentalism and her latest L'Rain album, 'I Killed Your Dog.'

Also with us, julian tett, author of "an throw-vision," a new way to see in business and life. welcome to both of you. jillian, watching vladimir putin, he is a master of stage craft. everything about him, the body language he gives off as he sort of sits like this, the laugh, the entire evasion of the answer, but he went on after that to talk about how this macho thing about killer is big in the united states, not here in russia. what is the message -- how is this going to go? when biden meets putin. trump loved that sort of thing. >> i find vladimir putin just fascinating because, in fact, i...