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Sue and when he can't. do you have a recourse? your democratic legislature said no your democratic governor has said no do you have any other choice at this point? >> well, the democrat leaders in both the house and senate in wisconsin have said no to the press any way that doesn't mean their membership necessarily agrees with them. their membership has the opportunity to pull this issue to the floor and to vote on it. i know there's an effort underway for that to occur. i'm convinced these members of the legislature want to represent their constituents. if they give congress the power that co...

Grades. you have written an op-ed piece with a title that has a lot of people on fire. headlined: for now we better start adjusting to our new status as good europeans. what's with that governor? >> i didn't put the headline on throw way in the end. i'm trying to maybe make a serious point this bill is about more than health care. it's about what kind of citizens we will be, what kind of people we will be going forward. the premise of this bill is that government will decide for the rest of us. and we will submit to higher taxes, submit to waiting in long lines for health care. we will submit ...

>> greta: how much help is she to you on this campaign down there? >> she is as all over the country, sarah is an energizer bunny. i mean it in the way of the strongest sense she's an energizing factor with americans and with the people the 4,000 people who were here today she energized them. the feeling that people have towards her is still one of the most remarkable things that i have ever seen and she never stops. she never stops and she is working hard for america. could i say again, it is very nostalgic for me and cindy to be together again for the first time since election night with sar...

Sue and when he can't. do you have a recourse? your democratic legislature said no your democratic governor has said no do you have any other choice at this point? >> well, the democrat leaders in both the house and senate in wisconsin have said no to the press any way that doesn't mean their membership necessarily agrees with them. their membership has the opportunity to pull this issue to the floor and to vote on it. i know there's an effort underway for that to occur. i'm convinced these members of the legislature want to represent their constituents. if they give congress the power that co...

Have access to health care. that sounds great if you can afford it. if you can't afford it what will happen to these people? >> we've been working on the problem in a different way much more affordable way. it will be wiped out. those people in our -- what we call the healthy indiana plan will be dumped into medicaid along with several00,000 more of our -- several hundred thousand more of our federal citizens. one effect to that will be long after i'm gone, a series of state tax increases. the states pay for a share of medicare. so when you add hundreds of the thousands of people in our case, ...