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>> greta: how much help is she to you on this campaign down there? >> she is as all over the country, sarah is an energizer bunny. i mean it in the way of the strongest sense she's an energizing factor with americans and with the people the 4,000 people who were here today she energized them. the feeling that people have towards her is still one of the most remarkable things that i have ever seen and she never stops. she never stops and she is working hard for america. could i say again, it is very nostalgic for me and cindy to be together again for the first time since election night with sar...

Cam -- campaign trail everyone agrees. now the election is over. there's some issues thank you and senator mccain have a respectful disagreement about? >> the point here is that senator mccain and i agree on the big picture. where it is that the country needs to go. there is so many challenges facing america right now. senator mccain has been on the right track trying to get the country back on track more security for this nation. weigh agree on those things that have to take place to undo some of the things that obama is doing and get us back on the right track. >> greta: that's a good team, ...

Policy. that's the way they decided to pay for what they've done. there are also direct affects on indiana i suppose this is no concern to people elsewhere. nationalized the student loan industry happens to be a strong business in our state. they are gonna tack the highly innovative medical device businesses. we happen to be a capital of that they've added punitive taxes on them to minimize the extraordinary cost of this bill. if it were good for america people in this state would be for it, even though it has these especially negative affects on us. but in our case, i think we get it on both ...

Have access to health care. that sounds great if you can afford it. if you can't afford it what will happen to these people? >> we've been working on the problem in a different way much more affordable way. it will be wiped out. those people in our -- what we call the healthy indiana plan will be dumped into medicaid along with several00,000 more of our -- several hundred thousand more of our federal citizens. one effect to that will be long after i'm gone, a series of state tax increases. the states pay for a share of medicare. so when you add hundreds of the thousands of people in our case, ...

Grades. you have written an op-ed piece with a title that has a lot of people on fire. headlined: for now we better start adjusting to our new status as good europeans. what's with that governor? >> i didn't put the headline on throw way in the end. i'm trying to maybe make a serious point this bill is about more than health care. it's about what kind of citizens we will be, what kind of people we will be going forward. the premise of this bill is that government will decide for the rest of us. and we will submit to higher taxes, submit to waiting in long lines for health care. we will submit ...