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He said that, he's said it publicly, and the president has never corrected him or walked it back until just this interview. and this also isn't the first time we've seen trump begin to distance himself from someone once they get into the thick of trouble. this is almost word for word how we heard him talk about michael cohen when michael cohen's prosecution and investigation were under way. it has echoes of paul manafort, the former campaign manager, who it turned out, according to trump, he barely knew at all. the question here i think is whether democrats are playing a smart strategy of givi...

Situation while intumating he knowstu things that will stop trump from throwing rudy under the bus. >> are you afraid, mr. mayor, that you could be indicted? >> oh, wow. ohow long have you known, me ed? >> several years. >> you think i'm afraid? >> i dont exoe. >> i did the right thing. i represented my client in a very, very effective way. >> have you talked to president trump? >> i do not discuss my conversations with my client. you can assume i talk to him early and often. and have a very, very good relationship with him and all of these comments, which are totally insulting -- i mean i say...

Laundering, conspiracy to defraud the united states, making false statements to the federal government, serving as an agent of a foreign government without registering with the justice department, donating funds from foreign nationals. making a contribution or allowing someone's name to make a contribution along with mail fraud and wire fraud. just this weekend rudy was back on trump tv brushing off concerns about his legal situation and seemingly intimating that he knows things about the president that will stop trump from throwing rudy under the bus. >> are you afraid, mr. mayor, that you co...

Answering questions they don't want to answer. you need get rid of the pauses and the blinking eye lashes. i think what they are doing is the proverbial throwing rudy under the bus. pompeo has an interest in separating himself from rudy, the president has an interest for separating himself. sekulow has a motive from separating himself from rudy. bill barr does and if it's all of those people saying i don't know what he was doing out there, then the primary defense which he's throwing out and i'm doing this all for the president seems to go away. and this sounds like he's being kicked to the cu...

And the blinking eye lashes. i think what they are doing is the preverbial throwing rudy under the bus. pompeo has an inters in separateli separating himself from rudy, the president has an interest for separating himself. bill barr does and if it's all of those people saying i dont know what he was doing out there, then the primary defense which he's throwing out and i'm doing this all for the president seems to go away. and this sounds like he's being kicked to the curb. >> well, rudy is thrown under the bus by donald trump? stop the presses. this is what we expected from donald trump for a ...