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The big fight happening within the republican caulkess and senate is whether to threaten a government shutdown or debt default over insisting that obama care be defunded. a lot of people not even your usual suspects are saying, this is a maniacal idea. tim, you wrote a defense of it today in your column. >> sort of a qualifier. this is a contest, republicans say they dwhan want to repeal obama care. guys like mike lee and ted cruz and the folks at heritage action are saying, okay, if you guys believe in that, let's try to do it not hold some empty symbolic vote to do it, but do it. the continu...

Carnie, senior political columnist for the washington examiner. visiting fellow at the enterprise institute. you're team paul in this one, i take it? what do you think -- why do you think this is a good fight for the republicans to have? i sense you do think it is. and why is paul the one that you're backing, that you feel speaks for the party the best. >> first let me say i do not accept rand paul's premise that eating bacon makes you gain weights, i think it's the carbs. in the foreign policy realm, what we need and in the national security realm, as far as nsa, spying and the great stuff th...

Carnie, senior political columnist for the washington examiner. visiting fellow at the enterprise institute. you're team paul in this one, i take it? what do you think -- why do you think this is a good fight for the republicans to have? i sense you do think it is. and why is paul the one that you're backing, that you feel speaks for the party the best. >> first let me say i do not accept rand paul's premise that eating bacon makes you gain weights, i think it's the carbs. in the foreign policy realm, what we need and in the national security realm, as far as nsa, spying and the great stuff th...

The big fight happening within the republican caulkess and senate is whether to threaten a government shutdown or debt default over insisting that obama care be defunded. a lot of people not even your usual suspects are saying, this is a maniacal idea. tim, you wrote a defense of it today in your column. >> sort of a qualifier. this is a contest, republicans say they dwhan want to repeal obama care. guys like mike lee and ted cruz and the folks at heritage action are saying, okay, if you guys believe in that, let's try to do it not hold some empty symbolic vote to do it, but do it. the continu...

Can get re-elected. >> rand paul couldn't resist the layup. >> bacon, talking about bacon, he's making a big mistake picking a fight with other republicansing. the republican party is shrinking in new england and the northeast part of our country. i'm the one trying to grow the party. >> christie says he has nothing personal against paul, but paul may have something personal against him. >> seeing his response, he has something personal against me, that's okay, just get in line on that front. >> paul offered to share a beer with christie, in hopes of ironing out their differences. his rhetoric...