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They thought the cnn retraction shun was a good opportunity to talk about what they wanted to talk about, the idea on all reporting on russia is therefore illegitimate, which is a ridiculous premise, but they were hoping -- but the rest of the country and people stop taking these stories seriously. >> charlie, all politicians and reporters have an adver sale relationship, sometimes incredibly testing. i live in a city where the mayor and the press corps are pretty much at each other's throats all the time. this very much seemed to me to want to fight with the press, because they don't have the...

Have the majority on all gochts. hillary is not runningia enmore, barack obama is gone, so the press it seems to be a kind of stand-in, the opponent they can point to, have you ever seen anything quite like this before? >> no. i was about to mention that it got really bad in the nixon white house, if you read tim krouse's terrific "boys on the bus." of course, reporters being reporters, that never happened, but it seems to me now that we're descending into something close to asymmetric warfare. the white house has declared war on cnn right now. if cnn doesn't know this and doesn't get itself d...