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White house, the senate and the house. >> because it matters. >> they have the power -- republicans have the power to fix this. if they are committed to the 800,000 people and don't want to them hostage now is the time to do something. why talk about obama? president obama is a former president. >> she asked me the question do democrats want this, if democrats actually want this. i showed proof when democrats could have done it and -- >> that's not true. >> that's true, sir. >> that's not proof. >> you chose not to pass the law for two years -- >> okay, we've got your point, ben. tim, finish y...

Someone label you something, just don't be the thing. i am in the business of calling a thing a thing. >> everybody you doek r don't like and lie in politics, because you don't like them doesn't mean they are automatically a racist. >> what does that mean? nobody made that proposition. no one has made that proposition. >> nobody has said that. >> outrageous thing to do. that is the sort of thing people like you do. people like you do -- what -- >> your entire argument has no basis. in fact whatsoever because you have no idea. >> i don't want to make this personal. >> it is personal, that was a...

Individuals that clearly had a past history of hating the president of the united states of america. >> okay, so let's move beyond that, tim and get back to the central issue. we are hearing a lot of criticism from members of the republican party concern that this president has not only damaged the brand but is damaging the reputation of the country and i'm wondering from a presidential historian perspective, if you can think of any time in history where you've seen something like this. >> well, the first thing i want to say, there's a great deal of noise now and what's really important, i thi...